Dan ([info]poserorprophet) wrote,
@ 2007-05-16 12:02:00
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Christianity and Capitalism Part X: Sharing (a final appeal)
Give to everyone who begs from you; and if anyone takes away your goods, do not ask for them again... If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. If you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same? If you lend to those from whom you hope to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners to receive as much again. But love your enemies, do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return... Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
~ Lk 6.30, 32-35a, 36.

[C]apitalism is an impeccably inclusive creed: it really doesn't care who it exploits. It is admirably egalitarian in its readiness to do down just about anyone. It is prepared to rub shoulders with any old victim, however unappetizing.
~ Terry Eagleton, After Theory, 19.

I know that I had stated that I was going to move on in this series to exploring "dependence/nonsensical vulnerability" as a key element of a Christian political economics that offers a genuine alternative to capitalism, but I could not resist one final comment on sharing as nonsensical charity.

Of all the biblical passages about sharing, few verses have shaped my understanding as much as the passage I quoted from Lk 6 (see also Mt 5.38-48). Within this passage, I believe that Jesus is describing precisely the form of nonsensical charity for which I have been advocating in my last few entries. Furthermore, I believe that the form of giving Jesus describes here is consistent with the call to giving that runs throughout the rest of the biblical texts. Hence, Lk 6 serves as an appropriate summation and manifesto regarding the form of giving that is to define the community of those who follow Jesus. Christians are called to give to everyone who begs from us, and lend expecting nothing in return. Full stop.

Unfortunately, it is exactly this form of giving that strikes us as nonsensical within the structures of capitalism. Capitalism teaches us to be much more pragmatic about how we give. Thus, for example, we only give to charities that provide us with tax breaks (who among us would even consider giving to a charity that is unregistered and could not give us a tax receipt?). Furthermore, if there is one type of person we are consistently told not to give to, it is those who beg from us on the street corner (I have heard innumerable arguments from social workers, and Christians, as to why giving our change to beggars is a bad thing -- but what all these arguments come down to, one way or another, is that giving to beggars is probably an absolutely wasted investment). Capitalism teaches (1) not to give to everyone who begs from us; and (2) to only give after considering what is to be gained from our giving -- i.e. to give expecting something in return.

However, I find that I cannot shake the words of Jesus in Lk 6, and so I find myself participating in nonsensical (not only non-pragmatic but even anti-pragmatic!) forms of charity. Jesus makes it clear that we are not to have any motive for giving other than the act of giving itself, and the desire to be like God our Father, whose giving is shockingly and (wastefully!) merciful. That the form of charity for which I have been advocating is generally not the form of charity embodied with the Christian community, suggests to me that we rarely take Jesus' words seriously.

Thus, continuing with the examples provided above, I would encourage Christians to give to all beggars, and I would encourage Christians who donate to charities to refuse the offer of tax receipts. And, ultimately, if we can't entirely shake the pragmatic outlook of our culture, and we are disturbed by the (seeming) fact that our giving does not seem to be doing any good, then I would suggest that the solution is not to stop giving, but to give more.

Two final point: first, at the beginning of this post, I juxtaposed Jesus' words in Lk 6 with a quote from Terry Eagleton about the inclusivity of capitalism. I created this juxtaposition in order to suggest that, just as capitalism doesn't care who it exploits, so also Christians should not care to whom they give. Only this radically inclusive form of giving will provide us with a genuine Christian alternative to the radically inclusive form of exploitation of capitalism.

Second, by subtitling this post "a final appeal," I am noting that this series is itself a part of the begging that I think is to define the Christian community. What else can we do but beg our brothers and sisters in Christ to reread the Scriptures, to reexamine the contemporary situation, and to rethink what it means to be a member of the body of Christ?


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Please send...
(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 02:36 am UTC (link)
Please send me a cheque for $500. Make it payable to "Craig Schwarze". Mail it to -

24 Trafalgar St
Annandale 2038
NSW Australia

Many thanks.

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Re: Please send...
(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 04:33 am UTC (link)
to understand craig's 'challenge' you can read here http://creative2567.blogspot.com/2007/05/giving-to-beggers.html

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Re: Please send...
(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 05:06 am UTC (link)
It's not a challenge - I am simply taking the author at his word. He said he is obliged to give to everyone who asks. Well, I have asked. I will let you know if he gives.

Craig

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Re: Please send...
[info]poserorprophet
2007-05-17 08:41 pm UTC (link)
Ah, yes, I should have known. There's one in every crowd.

Hey Craig,

Thanks for stopping by the ol' blog. It's always interesting to get some fresh faces, and fresh perspectives, around here.

You know, there's all sorts of interesting ways one could respond to your comment. I'll just note a few things.

First, isn't it interesting to note that "those who have something" can often be far more demanding than "those who have nothing"? Think about it: when was the last time you encountered a beggar on the street who asked for $500? Of course, as I have joked around with panhandlers some of them have noted that they accept one hundred dollar bills, but such jokes are usually employed as a means of instilling camaraderie (an attitude that it would be good for us on the internet to remember every now and again!).

This leads me to me second point: often the giving of money to beggars is so fruitful because it is a way of humanising a person who is so often dehumanised. In the time it takes me to dig out a few dollars, or go for a lunch (like Stephen, I'm also a big fun of take people for a meal who are asking for "money for food"), I can engage with a person in a life-giving way. Furthermore, since I often run into the same people multiple times, it becomes a way of building a relationship that can lead to something more (i.e. helping the person get into a program, inviting the person into my house, helping a person to get back to his or her family, and so on and so forth). I mention this not to take away from the simple act of giving money, but rather to continue to emphasise that giving means more (but certainly not less) than giving money.

Third, I very much like the way Dany summarises my thoughts on "giving to all" in his comment below. Dany says that giving to all might mean "don't discriminate, don't evaluate the merits of the person who receives, give to those who are appealing to the love that lives in you." This is well stated and means, among other things, that this is how I should relate to your request.

Unfortunately, that said, I really can't give you what I don't have. However, you will be happy to know that I have put $20 in the mail and sent it off to you.

With love,

Dan

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Re: Please send...
(Anonymous)
2007-05-18 01:45 am UTC (link)
Thanks Dan. Saying "giving to everyone who asks" really means "giving without discrimination" is a pretty significant qualifier.

Still, I appreciate you sending what you can. I would like to be able to tell you I will put it to good use - but that would undercut your point, would it not? That is, it would make it a "sensible" investment.

But what the hey, if your cheque does arrive, I'll put it in the plate at church. I hope you will consider that acceptable.

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Re: Please send...
[info]poserorprophet
2007-05-20 02:13 pm UTC (link)
Hey Craig,

Two brief comments:

(1) I fall short of completely reducing my "give to everyone who asks" to "give without discrimination." However, I think Dany's summary is quite helpful because, if we are truly giving without discrimination, then I fail to see how we will not simultaneously be giving to everyone. On my reading, these two things are like two sides of the same coin (consequently, when we hesitate to give, we should immediately ask, "how and why am I discriminating at this point?").

(2) You're right, I really don't care what you spend the money on. Drop it in the church plate, or buy yourself some beer, or whatever. If you want to "put the money to good use" because you feel guilty about asking in the first place, I say forget about all that. I want the money to be a gift to you (albeit a smaller one than desired).

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giving
[info]imclaren.wordpress.com
2007-05-17 02:37 am UTC (link)
Dan,
I just read Volf's Free of Charge [great book!] and was challenged on the issue of giving without any motive, agenda, or expectation of receiving something in return. I am in the process of learning what it means to see everything as a gift from God, not my own to hold on to, but his to share. Breaking free of this 'capitalist' mindset is tough, and it is good to read your posts and realize that it's not a lofty ideal but the way things should be.
All caught up now ... i look forward to the next post.
Ian

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Re: giving
(Anonymous)
2007-05-20 04:57 am UTC (link)
hello Ian!

i think your goal is wonderful. i, too, have problems with sharing some things. when you say "everything is a gift from God" i think of the way i have naturally responded to money, and i think it's interesting enough to share.

i've been slow to adapt to the way "we're supposed to" hang onto and manage our cash. the way we "should" know exactly how much money we've got in which accounts at what times... how quick we should be with transfers and how savvy we should be with it in general. ...i'm so slow with it all! i'm not sure how much money matters, except when i don't have enough to get by.

it's almost absurd that the work i am able to do merits my ability to live comfortably while others suffer. it's almost like i intrinsically understand that everything *is* a gift from God, and any need that requires this system to be met is something that could be better got by other means... by way of the system of God, who honors and loves all life, who does not exploit and tear down *any* life.

i really love how you said "everything is a gift from God"! thanks for that. :)

-- courtney

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Re: giving
[info]poserorprophet
2007-05-20 02:16 pm UTC (link)
Ian,

Yeah, I'm a big fan of Volf's stuff as well. You (and Volf) make a great point about everything being a gift from God. Once we learn to recognise that all things (even "our" things!) actually belong to God -- and thus we are to be stewards of that which is God's, distributing it as God would desire, not hoarding it as though it belonged to us -- we will have gone a long way toward breaking free of the hold capitalism has upon the way in which we see the world.

Grace and peace.

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[info]itsmypulp.wordpress.com
2007-05-17 04:52 pm UTC (link)
What all these arguments come down to, one way or another, is that giving to beggars is probably an absolutely wasted investment.


I should begin by saying that I often give to beggars. I'm not absolutely opposed to the argument you're making here, although I don't give to literally everyone who asks.

To problematize your argument a bit —

Jesus doesn't say we shouldn't "invest". He says we shouldn't expect anything in return. I point this out because some forms of giving might be described as an investment in a person's life. I might choose to give to a charity that I think is going to effect a significant change: educate people, provide them with an opportunity to earn some income (micro-investments), make sure children have adequate food to benefit from school, or whatever.

In a sense I am making an investment — I'm investing in a better life for them — but I don't expect anything for myself in return. It's only the latter kind of "investment" that runs afoul of Jesus' instructions.

Ultimately it is impractical to give to everyone who asks, because our resources are limited but the demands are limitless. Therefore we might as well be strategic in the giving we do — trying to achieve the maximum benefit in the lives of the needy.

Sometimes I prefer to buy someone a meal rather than give money that might be spent on drugs or cigarettes. That, too, is a strategic decision. Sometimes I just fork over some money. Even if a single meal won't make a lasting difference in someone's life, providing a meal to a hungry person is obviously a legitimate thing for a Christian to do.

btw, the Mayor of Ottawa (Larry O'Brien) recently got into trouble for comparing beggars to pigeons: as in, "If you stop feeding the pigeons they'll stop coming around".
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2007/04/25/pigeon-070425.html
Now there's a capitalist mindset applied to the "problem" of the homeless.

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(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 06:42 pm UTC (link)
That post really got me to think, because quite often I "invest" in people I think I can help, and flatly give up on those I can't. If someone is visibly drunk day in day out, I can't start anywhere, I don't have the skill or patience, I'm worried I might just turn into an enabler. The services give up on them too.

But I will spend time noticing the newcomers and trying to get them out of the street. And while I don't invest in something that will benefit me personally, I quickly evaluate the potential success rate of my giving, I invest in success.

So I'm not sure what Dan meant in this post (and I'll have to chew it over some more) but giving to all might also mean: don't discriminate, don't evaluate the merits of the person who receives, give to those who are appealing to the love that lives in you, give to all that reach out for it, a.k.a give to all that beg to you.

Dany

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The prophet
(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 07:13 pm UTC (link)
As long as you feel bad, you understand the post. It seems to be about the writer's need for "everyone else" to be greedy, callous, and indifferent because if how they are living is generally just and charitable then the writer "suffers" for an aesthetic lifestyle choice and perhaps all for naught. Where is the evidence that this 'saying' was ever embodied in Acts or the epistles or anything we know of church history outside of some monastic movements. Even the monks were kinder to those who didn't voluntarily take it up.

Reading his view of the rest of us, I am reminded of the two-dimensional depiction of the Pharisees that Wright warns Jesus scholars of. As in the case of Matthew and the Pharisees, intense passion for a subject can cause one to falsely characterize (intentionally demonize?) those who don't agree. 'Radical' is occasionally wrong (though it never seems so in your 20's!)

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Re: The prophet
[info]poserorprophet
2007-05-17 08:38 pm UTC (link)
Hey Anon,

I have become accustomed to people (often strangers at that!) ascribing various motives to me. Of course, that's something of a faux pas for those who are accustomed to academic discourse, and it can be somewhat annoying, but so it goes when one writes on the internet. I've also learned that objecting to such characterisations is usually a waste of time so I am content to let you conclude whatever you want about me (after all, it's really not about me -- it's about faithfully following Jesus).

That said, I do have a few questions, as there were a few comments that you made that I find a little baffling. You wrote that I describe "everyone else" as "greedy, callous, and indifferent," and later in your comment you take this to be my "view on the rest of us." After reading over this post a few times, I'm still at a bit of a loss as to how you drew this conclusion (by putting "everyone else" in quotations it seems like you are quoting me, but you actually aren't). In this post, as in the rest of this series, I do comment on the ways in which capitalism teaches us to live -- but I do not conclude from that, that all of us have been equally disciplined by capitalism. It is up to each of us, within the context of the community of faith, to communally examine the ways in which we have been impacted by capitalism.

Secondly, you suggest that I seem to think that I am "suffering" for and "aesthetic"(snap!) lifestyle choice that I have made -- perhaps for naught (double snap!). Again, by putting the word "suffers" in quotations it seems like you are quoting me, but I'm not sure where you got this quotation -- certainly not this post. Furthermore, let me clear the air, and let you know that I really don't feel like I'm suffering all that much because of the lifestyle into which I am moving. By and large, the only suffering that I experience is the suffering of love -- i.e. I have grown to love many who are sick, addicted, abandoned, and abused, and so, because they suffer, I also suffer (just as you would suffer if your loved ones were being beaten, raped, and abandoned on a regular basis).

Anyway, it's alway good to have some who object to what I say, it is good for one's thinking and for dialogue (plus, it's always interesting to note which posts draw the most flak).

Grace and peace,

Dan

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Giving to those who ask
(Anonymous)
2007-05-18 06:37 am UTC (link)
I agree with you, Dan, on this one. To me, though, it seems that there are extremely few out there who understands this instruction of Jesus in your way, even among "radical" christians. But I have practised it in this way with your kind of reasoning beneath. My qualification, though, is that I give to real people whose body I can see and touch. I don´t, for example, give to every face-less organisation that asks of me. (And I probably wouldn´t have given to someone anonymous leaving a comment on my blog.) But I have one question - if people who gives to all that asks wouldn´t be just one here and there, but whole churches or groups - wouldn´t the result be that we all would be beggars. When people find out this, they will step all over us, or? For me, I think this is fine, though (as long as we tell them that they should not mis-treat us). Another thing - in the same spirit and based on the same texts in Luke 6 and Matthew 5-6, shouldn´t we also avoid locking our doors?
Jonas Lundström/Sweden

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Re: Giving to those who ask
[info]poserorprophet
2007-05-20 02:21 pm UTC (link)
Jonas,

Thanks for stopping by, it's great to dialogue with somebody as far away as Sweden! I appreciate your point about giving to "real people whose body [you] can see and touch." I think that that human contact is even more important than the act of giving money, or food, or whatever.

You ask a great question about the risk of being exploited and reduced to beggars ourselves, and it is exactly this point I hope to address in my post(s) on dependence and nonsensical vulnerability. I'll get there soon (I hope)!

As for the issue of locking doors, well, it's an interesting point and one that I'm not sure about. I'll have to think on it awhile. What do you think?

Grace and peace,

Dan

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the best way to help the money-asker?
(Anonymous)
2007-05-18 09:47 am UTC (link)
I agree that we should take Jesus words on giving to everyone who ask seriously. But I also think that giving money to the needed can be done in different ways, with variuos results. These progressive thoughts are indeed embedded in the capitalist discourse, whch I belive we should be careful while aproaching, but can also be to some use even if evil. For example, in my hometown; Stockholm, Seden, a lot of research has pointed out the problem with begger recieving mony from "ordinary" people. A street begger in Stockholm earns aprox. 120$US a day from begging, which allows her/him to continie his life on the street, often connected to drug abuse. Of course, some people have freely chosen to reject the capitalist work-based society and instead prefer the begging alternative, which should be seen with great respect. But for others, like drug abusers, the begging for money is really a begging for an alternative life. So, instead of giving money, we shold offer that life. And if we cant offer it on every streetcorner everyday (which is pretty demanding), we should instead give our money to other churches or organisations that are providing these alternatives. Just giving money to clear our concience isnt automatically taking jesus word seriously.

/markus

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Re: the best way to help the money-asker?
(Anonymous)
2007-05-18 11:36 am UTC (link)
Markus, but isn´t this a little patronizing - telling people what is best for them, despite their own explicit request? De-humanizing, as Dan said above. Also, I think a problem with your view might be that we out-sorce our responsibility for the poor to others, thereby keeping a comfortable distance between ourselves and the needy. To say no to some-one who asks for money, isn´t this also a kinda "no" to contact and relationship? Another point, I think, is that we need the poor to be deliverd from Mammon. People asking us for our moneys can help us with this.

Despite this, I think you are on to something, and I hope the prophet-man will comment. The man who first taught me to give to those who asks (Graham Warner, UK), used to combine giving to beggars with some kind of invitation to break free from their vicious circles, either through prayer or a meal or something else. Sounds nice, although I am not there yet myself. For me, a way to do this is to always try to give more than they ask for, this I think communicates that I do not do it out of a bad conscience or guilt.

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Re: the best way to help the money-asker?
(Anonymous)
2007-05-19 07:38 am UTC (link)
Jonas, I think we can agree that the best way to help the beggar is not by giving money, maby because christians are not suppose to posses any large amounts of money that can be given away, especially not experienced jesus-followers. Thus, the only way might be peters (or was it Pauls?) response that he did not have any money, but he was instead offering a new kind of life. In addition, if we really belive that money are one of the most dangerous things we have on earth, giving these to already vulnerable humans maby is not the best way.

However, as Jonas pointed out, many of us are not there yet. So what do we do if we do not have the courage and dedication to be a true christian? Well, for some the first steps can be through giving money to everyone that asks. For others the step might be through helping others that take jesus words more seriously than we ourselves do. The purpose can never be to distance us from the poor and let others do the work for us, or just to give the money to clear our conscience, but instead to begin the journey towards a radical jesus-following life.

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Political aspects of the question?
(Anonymous)
2007-05-19 09:14 am UTC (link)
What do you guys (Dan and readers) advocate in terms of *political* decisions for areas like the Lower East Side?

Dany

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Refuse Tax Receipts? Why?
(Anonymous)
2007-05-23 04:01 pm UTC (link)
First off, let me say that I find this command from Jesus to be one of the more challenging commands to live out. I do however disagree with you on one of your points.

You said: "I would encourage Christians who donate to charities to refuse the offer of tax receipts."

I think that is bad advice. While I don't think it is good to refuse to give money to an individual/organization who cannot give you a tax-deductible receipt. I think it would be foolish to not ask for one from an organization is able to give it. If you give $1000 and don't ask for a receipt, that means that when tax time rolls around you will have $150-300 less to give to the next individual/organization. I don't see how it is more noble to not seek that tax deduction.

--
Jesse Gavin

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2007-06-24 11:54 pm UTC (link)
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2007-06-28 12:11 pm UTC (link)
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